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In this issue:
- U.S. Records Collection Updates
--- 37 City Directories:
Conn., Maine, Mass., and R.I.
- Today's Featured Map
--- Canada and Newfoundland: Early Twentieth-Century Boundaries
- Genealogy Goulash
--- "Packing List: Final Edition,"
by Paula Stuart-Warren, CGRS (with the aid of many readers)
- Ancestry Quick Tip Jamboree
- Fast Fact
--- Help For Holiday Interviews
- Thought for Today
- Clipping of the Day
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U.S. RECORDS COLLECTION UPDATES
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37 CITY DIRECTORIES:
CONNECTICUT, MAINE, MASSACHUSETTS, AND RHODE ISLAND

The following databases contain 37 city directories for various
locations and years. Images of all directory pages can be either
browsed or searched. Please see below for a list of the exact cities
and years included in this release.

Generally a city directory will contain an alphabetical list of its
citizens, listing the names of the heads of households, their
addresses, and occupational information. Sometimes the wife's name
will be listed in parentheses or italics following the husband's.
Often, dates of deaths of individuals listed in the previous year's
directory are listed as well as the names of partners of firms, and
when possible, the forwarding addresses or post offices of people who
moved to another town.

In addition to the alphabetical portion, a city directory may also
contain a business directory, street directory, governmental
directory, and listings of town officers, schools, societies,
churches, post offices, and other miscellaneous matters of general
and local interest. These directories were reproduced courtesy of the
New England Historic Genealogical Society (http://www.nehgs.org )

CONNECTICUT
New London and Vicinity, Connecticut City Directories, 1929-1965
(10 directories)
http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=4717&key=D8693
Hartford & Vicinity, Connecticut City Directories, 1913-1928
(5 directories)
http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=4717&key=D8691

MAINE
Central Oxford County, Maine Directories, 1915-1918
(3 directories)
http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=4717&key=D8690

MASSACHUSETTS
Northern Essex, Massachusetts City Directories, 1912-1925
(4 directories)
http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=4717&key=D8692

RHODE ISLAND
Providence and Vicinity, Rhode Island City Directories, 1886-1939
(15 directories)
http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=4717&key=D8655


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CANADA AND NEWFOUNDLAND: EARLY TWENTIETH-CENTURY BOUNDARIES
National map of Canada showing the provinces and territories of the
nation in the early 20th century.

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GENEALOGY GOULASH:
"PACKING LIST: FINAL EDITION,"
by Paula Stuart-Warren, CGRS (with the aid of many readers)
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My work projects often take me on the road for more than a week at a
time. As I recently packed, I smiled because of "Ancestry Daily News"
readers. Thanks to the readers who shared research trip packing list
ideas during the last year, my own packing list has grown. To read
the previous columns on packing for a research trip "What's In Your
Suitcase" go to
http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=8535 .

With the holiday travel season upon us, I thought it would be a good
time for one last column based on the tips you shared. We have all
benefited from your generosity. (And the airlines may have benefited
from charges for overweight luggage.) I have visions of somewhere in
some training room Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
employees being forewarned about the suitcases of a genealogical
traveler.


MEDICINES AND CONTACT INFORMATION
A reader shared, "I always take along a list of our prescriptions
with dosages plus a copy of the contents of our wallets (credit card
numbers, etc.) in case they get lost. Having telephone numbers of
your doctors, insurance, friends, and family will save you having to
contact Information if you need to make a call." Another reader
commented they don't carry the paper prescriptions because they use a
national chain drugstore that has access to their prescriptions via
computer. However, if you're going to visit a rural area, remember
that there are many small towns with only a local drugstore.

STATIONERY ITEMS
Here's another offering: "My 'office' is a compartmented child's
pencil case, 3 by 8 inches and 1 1/2 inches thick, see-through
plastic, with secure flip-open lids on both sides. It was $1.29 in
August when pencil cases are sold in the 'school supply' section. It
travels in checked luggage by air, but by auto, it is in my wheeled
computer case along with notebooks, envelopes, and other research
needs.

"On one side are three small compartments with paper clips, small
snap clips for large amounts of paper, and small sticky notepads. In
the long compartment I place eight freshly sharpened No. 2 pencils,
two pens, and a small plastic ruler.

"In the other side's different configuration are several sizes of
rubber bands, a pink-rubber eraser, two small magnifying glasses of
different-strengths, a miniature stapler and box of staples to fit,
large sticky notepads, personal address labels, postage stamps for
postcards/letters, and cut 1/2-inch segments of small sticky notepads
for page markers for copying (make sure that when you cut, you leave
sticky on each segment). A small pair of folding scissors is to be
added here. Also--there is still room!"

(Note: some libraries don't allow the use of the sticky notes as they
leave hidden residue on the book pages.)

PERSONAL COMFORT
One reader added as "absolutely essential" an old fashioned bottle of
smelling salts, obtainable only in England now, that "settles
stomachs when flying or ill, revives drooping nerves, and helps when
fainting or exhausted."

For car travel there were many suggestions including a picnic basket
with paper plates, cups, plastic ware, paper towels, box of crackers,
and a couple cans of tuna. (You can even buy easy open foil pouches
of tuna). Other suggestions included a first-aid kit and a water
cooler with lots of water. One reader even added a porta-potty and
tissue. I wonder if the kitchen sink gets to come along too.

Another person suggested that "when buying the elastic roll bandage,
buy it in a farm store in the horse section (Fleet Farm in MN). It is
made the same as the 3-M product in the drug store, but is available
at 1/4 the price and comes in more colors." I have to investigate
this!

Continuing on this bent, another said, "While we were in D.C., a
friend hurt her ankle....Every night she put ice in a plastic bag
with a towel to wrap her ankle. Well from that moment on, I pack a
ice pack/water bottle."

EVEN IF GENEALOGISTS DON'T CLEAN HOUSES
One reader takes along a little "puffer" that came with a camera;
it's like a little bellows. It puffs away dust that can interfere
with reading old records. It would also come in handy to blow dust
off a microfilm reader.

Another found that a bottle of hair shampoo doubled as dishwashing
detergent, washing powder, and hand soap. "It wasn't as quite as good
in the clothes washing department but for a quick trip why pack all
three?"

PRACTICALITY
One woman said she carries a Swiss Army knife. "You can buy one with
all kinds of gadgets on it. My knife has a small pair of scissors,
tweezers, flat head and Phillips screw drivers, a can opener, bottle
opener, and two knife blades. Of course, I have to remember to put it
into my checked luggage when I take a plane."

Another use for a small keychain flashlight is for "extra light in
history rooms (if allowed)."

HEADING TO THE BUGS AND THE ELEMENTS
When it was time for outdoor research, I received notes on packing a
headscarf, plastic head cover, and a rain coat or plastic poncho.
Several readers reminded us to take bug repellent and leather boots
(snake bite prevention). Others like the new mosquito repellent
wipes. Also, someone recommended an ace bandage in case of
rattlesnake bite, to be placed between the wound and the heart. "One
cemetery that I visited had a sign posted on the gate 'beware of
rattlesnakes.'"

Another reminder that I received was, "When traveling by vehicle we
always have our old tool box filled with shovel, clippers, and other
garden tools that might help with cleaning up grave stones. Also
water jugs (old milk jugs) with water in them in case there is no
water at the cemeteries."

One woman commented: "For cemetery visits and photographing stones, I
am indebted to my husband for the gift of a professional
photographer's reflecting disc. This is a Mylar circle about 5 feet
wide, which folds into itself and stows in its own bag. I used to
drive around with a full-length mirror, but this is much better and
is packable for plane trips. Even on cloudy days it concentrates and
focuses the light to point out faded carving that looks unreadable
when seen full on. It requires another person to hold it unless there
is a headstone nearby to prop it on."

ELECTRONICALLY SPEAKING
I had conversations with genealogy friends about what takes up much
of our packing space. (Contrary to what some men might say for women,
it is not the makeup case!) It is the electronic equipment and
accompanying chargers, batteries, cords, and surge protectors.
Readers echoed what we take: cell phone, flatbed scanner, cell phone,
small printer for computer, and PDA. One man takes a "laptop computer
with interface for cell phone (to check e-mail and go on line to
Ancestry.com for research." A woman mentioned her laptop, commenting,
"This is my fifth one, they keep getting lighter, smaller, and
better. Wish I could say the same!"

Another mentioned electronic item that was an inverter to power
computer and scanner inside the van or on an airplane.

I was reminded by one of my roommates to bring along my DVD player to
Salt Lake City, so we can watch movies after the library closes.

KEEP ON TRUCKIN'
One reader told me about her upcoming research trip: "I couldn't live
without my tote bag system into which I file work for various
repositories I plan to visit. About 4,000 miles by car--I have nine
tote bags and will visit 11 states."

Another said, "On our last trip, we paid a $25 fee for overweight
luggage, so all the more reason to lighten the load. Speaking of
that, we also take with us a couple of large, heavy-duty mailing
envelopes, addressed to our home, and heavy sealing tape. We use them
to mail home paperwork, books, etc., that we pick up on our trip, but
prefer not to pack--for fear of having more overweight luggage!"

A PERSONAL FAVORITE
I was told I should buy a dual-zone travel alarm clock. "It'll take
the place of your bulkier kitchen timer, will let you know what time
it is "back home," and is a backup to the hotel/motel wakeup call."

It's time to sign off and go shopping for this alarm clock and to the
farm-supply store for a new elastic bandage. See you on the road!

____________________________________________________________________

Paula Stuart-Warren, CGRS, is a professional genealogist, consultant,
writer, and lecturer. She has lectured all across the U.S. and
coordinates the Intermediate Course, American Records and Research at
the annual Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy. She is co-author of
"Your Guide to the Family History Library" and an author for
genealogical periodicals including "Ancestry" Magazine. She is a
resident of St. Paul, Minnesota, and spends many weeks each year at
the Family History Library and the U.S. National Archives. Her roots
include ancestors from seven different countries and researching them
has given her broad experience and an occasional headache or two.
Comments will reach her at mailto:PSWResearch@comcast.net . Paula is
unable to answer individual genealogical research inquiries due to
the volume of requests received.

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MORE DIGITAL PHOTO LABELING TIPS
In response to Tom Aman's "Adding Text to Digital Images" Quick Tip,
in the 11/15/2004 ADN
(http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=831&key=A935002 )
I would like to add a few things:

--- Be sure to name the image (from a digital camera or scan) using
dates, name(s) of the people, and/or some sort of description. Most
software allows you to use long filenames.

--- Always make a copy of your original image before doing anything
to it. Simply adding a "2" or "_copy" to the name of the image
(before the extension) will allow you to do anything you wish to the
copy. This way, if you should make an irreversible mistake, you
always have the original to go back to. You may also compress the
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contrast and brightness (if necessary), etc. Be sure to note changes
you made. With the original still intact, you can then still have the
original to make other changes to, print and frame, etc. (Personally,
I always try to use the method Tom described in the second half of
the 2nd paragraph of his tip, saving the resultant image as a copy of
the original, rather than replacing the original.)

--- Using any of the methods described in the original article or
this one, you should be able to change the background color, font
style, and text color of your text "boxes" to match your image. Just
be sure to make the text readable. Too often, people use fancy fonts
and bad color combinations (dark blue on black or vice-versa, yellow
on white, etc.) which may work fine on their computer the way they
have it set up, but will not work on others people's computers. Keep
in mind all the "bad" website color combinations and font-styles you
have seen out there in Internet-land, and try to avoid them.

--- If you are scanning images, be sure to scan the back too, if
there is ANY writing on it. If you do so, save it using the same name
as the original with "_2back" or some such suffix on the filename
(again, before the extension period). You may want to change the name
of the original by adding a suffix of "_1front". The numbers help the
computer sort them in order (front then back) and the word helps you
remember which is which when all you see is the name. The writing on
the back was most likely written by a family member who knew who the
people were, or it may contain photo processing information, like the
name and address of the studio that processed the negative. NOTE that
the back does not need to scanned using the same resolution as the
front, but be sure to scan the whole back. Sometimes scanning brings
out faint printing that you may have missed, visually.

While all of this may increase your processing time at download or
scan-time, it will make it easier to find these images and use them
in the future.

Bill Sanders

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READ EVERYTHING
About a year ago I had sent for some newspaper death notices for my
third great-grandfather's sister and her husband. Since they were so
far removed from my direct family, I had just stashed the newspapers
in the back of the box of sources I had acquired over time. I was
looking through the box today when I decided to pull out these
articles. They had sent me the whole page of the paper (rather then
just the article alone), so I decided to read the rest of the paper
to see what else was going on in the town in 1879. Lo and behold,
under "Marriages," was my great-grandfather's marriage to his third
wife! I had only recently discovered her maiden name, and now I have
a marriage date.

So, you see, if I taken the time to look at this a year ago, it would
of saved me a lot of time and trouble!

Thanks,
Bonnie Johnson

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THOUGHT FOR TODAY
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"Not what we say about our blessings, but how we use them, is the
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CLIPPING OF THE DAY
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From the "Daily Gazette" (Colorado Springs, Colorado), 29 November
1879, page 3:

CELEBRATING THE DAY

Company B's bullets and Ball

Church Services, Suppers and Songs

OBSERVANCES IN THIS CITY.

Thanksgiving Day dawned cloudy and cold, and the ground was covered
with snow, which had fallen during the night. There was not much
depth to the snow, but there was enough of it to give one a regular
old New England Thanksgiving Day feeling. The fresh morning air
seemed to bear the suggestive and fragrant odor of roast turkey and
everything took on a holiday appearance.

About 9 o'clock the bugles of Company B were heard, and soon
afterward the music of the band announced that the boys had formed
for the parade. The company marched through town in fine order and
then repaired to the shooting range across the Monument, and the
contest in skill began to secure the prizes which had been offered.
. . .

As the prizes were to be distributed at 9 o'clock p.m. after the
opening march of the ball, there was considerable anxiety to be
present when the result should be announced. As a consequence the
hall was crowded at the appointed hour by ladies and gentlemen, and
the march presented a very handsome appearance. . . .

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1881 Census images HURRAH !

Search UK Census Collection

1871 England Census (images, partial every name index) - Updated!

1871 Wales Census (images, partial every name index) - Updated!

1871 Isle of Man Census (images, every name index)

1871 Channel Islands Census (images, every name index)

1881 England Census (images, every name index) - New!

1881 Wales Census (images, every name index) - New!

1881 Isle of Man Census (images, every name index) - New!

1881 Channel Islands Census (images, every name index) - New!

1891 England Census (images, every name index)

1891 Wales Census (images, every name index)

1891 Isle of Man Census (images, every name index)

1891 Channel Islands Census (images, every name index)

1901 England Census (images, partial every name index) - Updated!

I got a thrill

I reported an error via this United Kingdom and Ireland Board

Boards > Topics > Ancestry.com > United Kingdom and Ireland

1871 Census Update : L. Brown -- 15 Nov 2004
wrote:-

Last week we released a maintenance fix to the birth location field in many of the Wales counties.

The counties affected by this update are:

Breconshire
Denbigshire
Flintshire
Glamorgan
Montgomeryshire
Radnorshire

Specifically, the error that was repaired was many of these counties showed a "-" in the birth location field.

This has now been updated to show the correct information.

Over 100,000 records were corrected.

I got a thrill to see the results of my work as a volunteer and a (friendly) critic
John Jones -, - missing birthplaces

50% to 70% error and omissiion rate birthplace >> -, - <<
date: 25 Sep 2004 8:29 AM GMT

William Thomas Stevens Ball
my GWR engine driver is MUCH easier to find this time


1871 Wales Census Viewing records 1-5 of 5 matches for:
Ball with Bath
« Global Search Results

Name
Age in 1871
Birthplace
Relationship
Civil Parish
County/Island
View Image
Anne Ball
59
Bath, Somerset, England
Wife
St Mary
Breconshire

John Wm Ball
35
Bath, Somerset, England
Head
Swansea
Glamorgan

Mary E Ball
58
Bath, Somerset, England
Wife
Carmarthen
Carmarthenshire

Thomas Ball
30
Bath, Somerset, England
Head
St Mary
Glamorgan

Willia Ball <<<< THIS GUY
42
Bath, Somerset, England
Head
Roath
Glamorgan


You are here: Search > Census > UK Census Collection > 1871 Wales Census > Glamorgan > Roath > District 28b

the links are mostly for subscribers

Wales 1871
• Coming soon:
Monmouthshire

United Kingdom and Ireland (962)
a very very big page showing the whole board

1841-1851-1861 Census - VAT - missing images

Re: 1841-1851-1861 Census

Author: L. Brown Date: 5 Nov 2004 8:24 PM GMT

Looks like it is time to look into the crystal ball and make my
nextprediction...

1901 - we are not planning any posts to 1901 census for the rest of this
year.

All focus is on 1871 and 1881.

1881 - This entire census will be available (free index, images
forsubscribers only) in the next few weeks. As this has been a linking
project(linking our images to an existing index) it has not taken any
resourcesaway from 1871.

1871 - This is our primary focus until the end of the year. It lookslike we
won't quite have everything finished by end of year, but we will bevery
close.

1861 - we will begin posting as soon as 1901 is finished. I am notgoing to
guess a date for this, but will say it will be in the first part of2005.

1851 - Begin posting in late 2005

1841 - Begin posting after 1851 is complete

Best regards, L. Brown Senior Product Manager Ancestry.com

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Re: UK Records - same access from both Ancestry sites?

Author: L. Brown
Date: 5 Nov 2004 8:55 PM GMT

Ancestry is required to charge VAT based on your place of residence
.Therefore, regardless of which site you purchase from, you will be
chargedVAT if you are living in a qualifying EU country.

Your subscription will work on either site.
The Ancestry.com site onlyaccepts payment in USD (though your credit card
company will do the exchangefrom pounds to dollars for you).

The Ancestry.co.uk site accepts BritishPounds, Canadian Dollars, US Dollars,
Euro, and Australian Dollars.
You can select which currency you would like to pay with.

Purchasing from the Ancestry.co.uk site helps support that site directly,
so if you like not having to wade through all the Americanrecords, purchase
your subscription there.

Hope this helps, L. Brown Senior Product Manager
Ancestry.com

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Re: missing images for Warwickshire in 1871 census
Author: L. Brown Date: 5 Nov 2004 8:06 PM GMT

>>>>>>>>>>>> Short explanation:

The best way to avoid seeing missing images is to conduct your searches
from the specific search form for that census year. This form does not allow
you to search for counties that are incomplete or not fully posted. In
the case of 1871 England, that would be located at:
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7619

>>>>>>>>>>>> Long explanation:

We "officially" post content by county, but the data isn't actually
neatly divided by county on the microfilm.

It is very common to have records from a bordering counties mixed with
official county releases (parishes spanning county jurisdictions for
example).
As it is nearly impossible to delete these records, they get releasedwith
the official county.

For example, today on our site are 40,000 recordsfrom 1871 Cheshire, even
though we have not yet "posted" Cheshire.

If you go to the individual search form,
[eg England 1871 with drop down menus Residence >> County or Island
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7619 HW ]
we don't allow searching on Cheshire yet as it is not
released.

However, the trouble comes if you search from other locations onthe site
(the home page for example).
A global home page search doesn't carewhat is official or not, it searches
all the records.

When it returns a match in a parish that is not yet officially
released, you end up with a broken image link.
Certainly this is annoying. We have not been able to devise a method
of preventing this from happening. I apologise for the inconvenience.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Part B of the long explanation...

If you are searching from the individual search form for that census year
and you still encounter a missing or broken image link, then you havefound a
bug.
That can be reported here on this message board if you prefer
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ancestry.uk-ire

or more efficiently, can be reported right from the record itself by
clicking on the "Comments and Corrections" link under the "What to do
Next?"heading.

Thanks for your feedback, L. Brown Senior Product Manager
Ancestry.com

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Google Groups Search: 1841-1851-1861 Census

Monmouthshire is usually the last bit of Wales to be posted so for my needs
Raglan 1841 it looks like waiting to 2007 :-(

Anyway his first message is why I believe that as english or welsh
volunteeers we should concentrate our transcription efforts on freebmd.

County FHS obviously will do local resources. Glamorgan FHS has done a
brilliant job of pre 1837 indexing
I found at the county record offices.

A nationwide pre 1837 database would be a good project when freebmd is
about 95% complete

Historical Map: Ottoman Empire, 1481-1683

Ancestry.com - Historical Map: Ottoman Empire, 1481-1683

OTTOMAN EMPIRE, 1481-1683
Regional map of south eastern Europe, north eastern Africa, and the
Levant showing the political control of the Ottoman Empire between
1481 and 1683.


For best results viewing Ancestry.com maps, download the free MrSID
image viewer

lots more on the web see
Google Search: OTTOMAN EMPIRE, 1481-1683

Google Image Search: OTTOMAN EMPIRE, 1481-1683

there is a tendency to underrate Turkey but just study the history of that land.

"Error Processing Request" for image

I was trying to answer Steve below
yet again the boundary between England and Wales or two counties
in this case Shropshire and Denbighshire is confused

with broken links

email ancestry support and ask for the image

======================================


"Steve Davies" wrote :-
> Hi all
> I need to view a page from the 1871 census, I have joined ancestry.co.uk but
> each time I try to download a copy of the original page I get an error
> message, can someone help.
>
> The page I require is :-
>
> RG10/2779/54 Page 9

what names ?
would make checking easier

=========== an example of the method =============

RG10/2779

piece 54

1871 England Census Viewing records 1-50 of 2,474 matches Only the first 2,000 matches can be viewed. Please refine your search to reduce the number of matches.
You are here: Search > Census > UK Census Collection > 1871 England Census > Shropshire > Sycharth > District 2

folio 61 page 1 is OK

You are here: Search > Census > UK Census Collection > 1871 England Census > Shropshire > Upper Porkington > District 10 folio 118 page 17

You are here: Search > Census > UK Census Collection > 1871 England Census > Shropshire > Selattyn > District 11 folio 131 page 17

1871 Wales Census Viewing records 1-50 of 1,664 matches1871 Wales Census Viewing records 1-42 of 42 matches

1871 Wales Census Viewing records 1-21 of 21 matches
« Global Search Results
Name
Age in 1871
Birthplace
Relationship
Civil Parish
County/Island
View Image
Thomas Davies
10
Llansilin, Denbighshire, Wales
Servant
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Ann Evans
52
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Wife
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

David Evans
49
dinasmonddu, Merionethshire, Wales
Head
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

John Hughes
30
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Servant
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Ann Jones
20
Llansilin, Denbighshire, Wales
Servant
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Ann Jones
19
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Daughter
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Charles Jones
15
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Son
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Evan Jones
29
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Son
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

John Jones
26
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Son
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Mary Jones
59
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Head
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Thomas Edward Jones
6
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Grandson
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Ann Lloyd
19
Llansilin, Denbighshire, Wales
Daughter
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Fanney Lloyd
10
Llansilin, Denbighshire, Wales
Daughter
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Hugh Lloyd
23
Llansilin, Denbighshire, Wales
Son
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Margaret Lloyd
25
Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales
Daughter-in-law
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Richard Lloyd
54
Llansilin, Denbighshire, Wales
Head
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Robert Lloyd
15
Llansilin, Denbighshire, Wales
Son
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Rose Lloyd
39
llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire, Wales
Wife
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Sarah Lloyd
12
Llansilin, Denbighshire, Wales
Daughter
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Robert Owens
22
Llandrillo, Merionethshire, Wales
Servant
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Edward Roberts
21
Oswestry, Shropshire, England
Servant
Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
Denbighshire

Error Processing Request
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7618&iid=DENRG10_2778_2781-0292


Census Records matches for Rhiwlas Uwchfoel
= Subscription Required (Sign Up!)
120 total matches found in All Records > Census Records
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=7618&path=Denbighshire

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&q=site%3Acontent.ancestry.co.uk+Llansilin&btnG=Search

site:content.ancestry.co.uk Llansilin

you may use this to find a search page

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=7618&path=Denbighshire.Rhiwlas+Uwchfoel

theoretical is the URL

Hugh W

==== another approach ======

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.asp

RG10/2779 go to reference




RG Records of the General Register Office, Government Social Survey Department, and Office of Population Censuses and Surveys

RG 10 General Register Office: 1871 Census Returns


Subseries within RG 10 SHROPSHIRE



Subsubseries within RG 10 Registration District 353.OSWESTRY


RG Records of the General Register Office, Government Social Survey Department, and Office of Population Censuses and Surveys

RG 10 General Register Office: 1871 Census Returns


Subseries within RG 10 SHROPSHIRE



Subsubseries within RG 10 Registration District 353.OSWESTRY




RG 10/2779

RG Records of the General Register Office, Government Social Survey Department, and Office of Population Censuses and Surveys

RG 10 General Register Office: 1871 Census Returns


Subseries within RG 10 SHROPSHIRE



Subsubseries within RG 10 Registration District 345.CLUN

Registration Sub-District 1A Clun Civil Parish, Township or Place: Clun: Newcastle, Ediclift or Bicton, Whitcott, Hopebendrid

000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

RG 10/2779
No description available
1871
RG 10/2779
Registration Sub-District 2 Llansilin
1871
RG 10/2779
Civil Parish, Township or Place: Llansilin (Denb): Rhiwlasisfoel (Denb), Rhiwlasuwchfoel (Denb, Priddbwll (Denb), Meolfre (Denb), Lower Lloran (Denb), Sycharth (Denb), Lledrode
1871
RG 10/2779
Civil Parish, Township or Place: Llanyblodwell: Bryn, Blodwell, Lynchys
1871
RG 10/2779
Civil Parish, Township or Place: Selattyn: Upper Porkington, Lower Porkington
1871

BALTIMORE PASSENGER LISTS, 1892-48 (Images and index), update adding 1913-48

Ancestry.com - Ancestry Daily News, 03 November 2004

This database is an index to the passenger lists of ships arriving
from foreign ports at the port of Baltimore, Maryland from 1892-1948.
In addition, the names found in the index are linked to actual images
of the passenger lists, copied from the National Archives and Records
Administration (NARA) microfilm, M844, rolls 1-150. This database
also contains a few records of immigrants who entered the U.S. at
other ports or border crossings and were later asked, when they were
living in Baltimore, to fill out immigrant arrival information on
passenger lists. Therefore, you may find individuals in this database
whose port of arrivals are, for example, St. Albans, Vermont; Portal,
North Dakota; Port Huron, Michigan; Tampa, Florida; and others.

Information contained in the index includes given name, surname, age,
gender, ethnicity, nationality or last country of permanent
residence, destination, arrival date, port of arrival, port of
departure, ship name, and microfilm roll and page number. If a name
of a friend or relative whom the individual was going to join with,
or a place of nativity was provided, that information is included in
the index as well. Many of these items may be used to search the
index in the search template above.

It is important to note that the port of departure listed on these
passenger lists is not always the original port of departure for
these individuals. A ship could make several voyages throughout the
year, making several stops along way. Oft times the port of departure
found on these lists is the most recent port the ship was located at
prior to arriving at the port of Baltimore. Therefore, if your
ancestors emigrated to the U.S. from Germany, they could be found on
a passenger list coming from Liverpool, England (if, in this case,
the ship left from Bremen, Germany then continued on to Liverpool,
England before arriving in Baltimore).

The microcopies of the passenger lists found at NARA are arranged
chronologically by arrival date of vessel. If you do not wish to
search this database using the search template, the images may be
browsed following the chronological arrangement. To browse the images
first select the "Year" in which you would like to search, followed
by the "Month", and finally the "Ship Name." To learn about
researching in passenger records consult John P. Colletta's book,
They Came In Ships (Salt Lake City: Ancestry, 1993).

Ancestry.com subscribers with access to the Immigration Collection
can view this database

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beware of the pages called LANDINGS -some misunderstand what is on offer

Charts & Forms

Ancestry.com - Research Extract

Use the research extract sheets to summarize information which cannot be photocopied, for which there is no document in your possession, or for things such as deeds which may be time-consuming or difficult to reread quickly when you need information from the copy you have.

in other words MAKE A LIST
and do the most important thing first


from Ancestry Daily News
snipped

WHAT KIND OF PROCESSING?

As I look at each record that needs to be filed, I have to ask myself
the following:
--- Have I recorded the complete source citation?
--- Have I recorded it in my research log?
--- Have I entered this record in my family history database?
--- Have I transcribed this record in electronic form, and if so,
where is it?
--- Have I made copies to cross-reference with other family members
referenced in the record?
--- Have I emailed it or sent copies to Mom?
--- Have I added it to the family timeline?
--- Have I analyzed this record to see if it indicates follow-up with
other records?

Depending on what kind of system you use, your list of questions may
vary slightly. For example, if you don't use an electronic database,
you might include, "Have I entered this information into my family
group sheet?" instead.

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

So how do I answer these questions? With a checklist, of course. I
went into the Ancestry.com free charts and forms
and selected the Research Extract.

I've printed out a copy of the form and the fields included in the
heading take care of the source citation right off the bat. A little
personalization takes care of the rest. In the space below the
description of the record and the search information, there are blank
lines. In these, I added fields for:

--- Sent to--with space for the names of people I have shared this
record with.
--- Transcription--with a blank line to fill in the location of that
transcription.
--- Entered in database--with a blank so I can fill in the date. This
way if I lose my database in a system crash, I can go to my back-up
and by reviewing these records, see what information needs to be re-
entered.
--- Timeline--with a box for a check
--- Research log--If the search was entered in my research log (which
also serves as my to-do list), this prompts me to enter a close date
and the results.
--- Cross-reference--I leave a line to add the names of the other
individuals I have cross-referenced the record with.

The original form holds two records on a split page. Since I like to
leave room for notes, after adding my personalized fields, I
photocopy a half sheet, adding more lines at the bottom so that I'd
have more room. (While there are other ways of creating a
personalized form, including starting from scratch, this is quick and
easy, and that's a big plus in my world.) In the remainder of the
lines, I record my observations on the information in the record and
ideas for follow-up.

Once I had the form to my satisfaction, I made a stack of copies and
saved the original so I could make more photocopies when I ran out.
Now the copies are on my desk in an upright "magazine file." (An
example is at http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=346452 ,
but I've seen them cheaper. I have cheapo plastic ones.)

In this magazine bin, I place blank manila folders, a folder filled
with clear plastic sleeves, and of course the form copies in another
folder. Now when I print out a record online, I stash it in a sleeve
and fill out as much as I can of the form before life interrupts. I
use pencil and put the form in the sleeve with the print-out. Now
when I get a few minutes to spend on my research, I just grab one,
look at my form and continue where I left off.

I bought another bin to put the "piles" into, and I have to admit,
most of records I currently have in it so far don't have a whole lot
of information in them. However, I do make sure that if I haven't
printed the index entry or source citation with the document, I fill
in at least that part.

I'm finding it convenient so far and now that the pile isn't so
perplexing, I don't dread this filing chore so much anymore. Hey,
someday I may even find myself without a pile to file. Nah, who am I
kidding?

____________________________________________________________________

Juliana Smith is the editor of the "Ancestry Daily News" and author
of "The Ancestry Family Historian's Address Book." She has written
for "Ancestry" Magazine and "Genealogical Computing."